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Max Levchin

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The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

The single most important objection I have to credit cards is that it is not designed to guide you as a customer directly.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

towards good financial outcomes.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

It's actually designed to guide you to not so good financial outcomes.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

The most important feature of credit cards is this idea of revolving where you swipe now and you just kind of pay forever.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

And the user interface is built around this idea that, hey, just pay the minimum payment.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

It's like 3% of your total outstanding balance.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

It's all good.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

You're in good standing.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

Keep going.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

And so most people either are transactors, which is probably like you and me, where we use credit card same way via debit card, where you paid off at the end of the month, you never pay a penny of interest.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

You, you know, that is true for like a relatively small number of people.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

Most people carry a balance when they carry a balance.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

Typically when you start, you basically don't stop.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

Most Americans revolve at about $10,000 and that's roughly dangerously close to their total spending power that the credit cards can actually give them.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

And so they're constantly just paying interest.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

Credit cards are also what's called compounding interest.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

So it's interest on interest.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

So every time, every month you get a little bit more interest that adds to your total debt.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

And next month, if you haven't paid it off, it's just going to keep compounding and compounding.

The Rundown
Affirm CEO On Fixing America’s Broken Credit System

And so your true cost of ownership, whenever you buy a thing, swipe your card, a thousand dollar TV, very nice for Superbowl.