Max Read

OK, so the Zizians have some strange ideas. They have a charismatic leader. That doesn't necessarily mean trouble has to happen. When do the Zizians first have trouble with the law?

OK, so the Zizians have some strange ideas. They have a charismatic leader. That doesn't necessarily mean trouble has to happen. When do the Zizians first have trouble with the law?

Ziz starts to become disillusioned with the rationalist community around 2019. And around the same time, a set of accusations becomes public against some of the higher-ups at MIRI. That's, remember, the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, one of the prominent nonprofits involved in AI safety and rationalism. These accusations, which are made on an anonymous website, are...

Ziz starts to become disillusioned with the rationalist community around 2019. And around the same time, a set of accusations becomes public against some of the higher-ups at MIRI. That's, remember, the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, one of the prominent nonprofits involved in AI safety and rationalism. These accusations, which are made on an anonymous website, are...

Ziz starts to become disillusioned with the rationalist community around 2019. And around the same time, a set of accusations becomes public against some of the higher-ups at MIRI. That's, remember, the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, one of the prominent nonprofits involved in AI safety and rationalism. These accusations, which are made on an anonymous website, are...

essentially that some of the higher ups at this at Mary have sexually assaulted minors. And, you know, these are these accusations have never been sort of specifically elaborated in court. You know, these are accusations about not just sexual assault, but also cover ups.

essentially that some of the higher ups at this at Mary have sexually assaulted minors. And, you know, these are these accusations have never been sort of specifically elaborated in court. You know, these are accusations about not just sexual assault, but also cover ups.

essentially that some of the higher ups at this at Mary have sexually assaulted minors. And, you know, these are these accusations have never been sort of specifically elaborated in court. You know, these are accusations about not just sexual assault, but also cover ups.

But there has been some really important and significant and really well documented reporting about sexual harassment, sexual assault, if not with minors, with adult members of the community. So, you know, to be fair to Ziz, it's not like she's inventing these charges. She is, I think, maybe picking up on some real messed up power dynamics.

But there has been some really important and significant and really well documented reporting about sexual harassment, sexual assault, if not with minors, with adult members of the community. So, you know, to be fair to Ziz, it's not like she's inventing these charges. She is, I think, maybe picking up on some real messed up power dynamics.

But there has been some really important and significant and really well documented reporting about sexual harassment, sexual assault, if not with minors, with adult members of the community. So, you know, to be fair to Ziz, it's not like she's inventing these charges. She is, I think, maybe picking up on some real messed up power dynamics.

I should note that this is not necessarily her crusade here is not necessarily a sort of moral like, you know, for the sake of the victims of this harassment or assault issue. It's that she thinks that if the messengers of rationalism are imperfect in this way, that it will damage their ability to pursue the goals of AI safety, of AI alignment.

I should note that this is not necessarily her crusade here is not necessarily a sort of moral like, you know, for the sake of the victims of this harassment or assault issue. It's that she thinks that if the messengers of rationalism are imperfect in this way, that it will damage their ability to pursue the goals of AI safety, of AI alignment.

I should note that this is not necessarily her crusade here is not necessarily a sort of moral like, you know, for the sake of the victims of this harassment or assault issue. It's that she thinks that if the messengers of rationalism are imperfect in this way, that it will damage their ability to pursue the goals of AI safety, of AI alignment.

And so in 2019, she and three of her followers, I suppose at this point we can say, go to a CIFAR reunion and they blockade the entrance. They wear Guy Fawkes masks in the manner of anonymous and they pass out flyers basically elaborating that Eliezer Yudkowsky does not deserve to be leading the rationalist movement. This obviously freaks out the people at CIFAR who call the cops.

And so in 2019, she and three of her followers, I suppose at this point we can say, go to a CIFAR reunion and they blockade the entrance. They wear Guy Fawkes masks in the manner of anonymous and they pass out flyers basically elaborating that Eliezer Yudkowsky does not deserve to be leading the rationalist movement. This obviously freaks out the people at CIFAR who call the cops.

And so in 2019, she and three of her followers, I suppose at this point we can say, go to a CIFAR reunion and they blockade the entrance. They wear Guy Fawkes masks in the manner of anonymous and they pass out flyers basically elaborating that Eliezer Yudkowsky does not deserve to be leading the rationalist movement. This obviously freaks out the people at CIFAR who call the cops.

Sonoma County sends in a SWAT team who basically by all accounts assaults Ziz and her three followers and they get arrested and thrown in jail in Sonoma County. And this on both sides represents a kind of escalation of For the rationalists, the establishment rationalists, such as they are, they realize that this Zizian group is maybe potentially dangerous.

Sonoma County sends in a SWAT team who basically by all accounts assaults Ziz and her three followers and they get arrested and thrown in jail in Sonoma County. And this on both sides represents a kind of escalation of For the rationalists, the establishment rationalists, such as they are, they realize that this Zizian group is maybe potentially dangerous.

Sonoma County sends in a SWAT team who basically by all accounts assaults Ziz and her three followers and they get arrested and thrown in jail in Sonoma County. And this on both sides represents a kind of escalation of For the rationalists, the establishment rationalists, such as they are, they realize that this Zizian group is maybe potentially dangerous.