Max Tani

At campaign events and at the White House.

But he's a classic fan of both Broadway and macho movies and movie stars from the 80s and 90s.

I think a lot of people close to Trump and a lot of people who supported him believed that 2024 and his reelection was a vindication of their worldview.

And they saw this in the strength of the growth of independent podcasters and the kind of manosphere figures like Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and their willingness to openly support Trump and kind of chop it up.

I could definitely tell you.

They saw this as a as a vindication that this was really the mainstream culture and that, you know, kind of this anti-Trump.

cultural backlash that had kind of emanated from the traditional gatekeepers in Hollywood and these other places just had lost some currency with a lot of mainstream Americans.

They pointed at the popularity of country music.

There's been these big debates over whether people like Morgan Wallen

You know, is he kind of a Trump supporter?

You know, I think that a lot of people who like Trump and are very pleased by this have pointed out all of those signs and the popularity of country music, bro, podcasters, and Trump's reelection and said, this is mainstream American culture.

Oh, constantly.

He loves it.

Yeah.