Medical Examiner

Where is everyone at? MomTalk has gotten to a really hostile point. Demi's willing to kick Jesse out of the group. I feel like I'm walking into a lion's den. It's going to get messy, for sure.

The chipped thumb fingernail, something that really stood out to me on scene. Broken fingernails can be a sign that the person tried to defend themselves.

The prosecution insists... There was a bullet in her skull.

With her head on a pillow, that would be consistent, yes.

There was a gunshot wound as a cause of death, a matter of death homicide.

As a criminalist, I'm going to go with the science rather than the eyewitness.

Remember that medical treatment will change the appearance of burn injuries.

Initially, there's enough room in the average-sized room to support a pretty substantial fire.

The critical issue appears to be the duration of the fire. From what my research has shown me, the time factor ascribed to that fire by the original investigators of five to seven minutes is wrong.

Based on the damage to the room and the damage to the body, I would have estimated a 15 to 20 minute duration fire. At this point, I'd have to say I do not think he's responsible for that fire.

John DeHaan agrees. I can't move smoke out of a room, into an attic, out of the attic, and that high in the sky to reach those kind of heights in that kind of time frame.

What is she thinking?

They're basically saying, we got this. We don't need your help right now.

Did you collect Jamie's clothes? Did you take Judy's clothes? Did you take her cell phone? Did you take Jamie's cell phone?

Why not?

But I mean, even if a camera's not that great, you can still take still shots.

Is this the most bungled evidence collection handling of a scene that you've ever seen?

You get a call, finally, that Jamie has been arrested. Were you shocked?

Were you worried that because the investigation wasn't handled the way it should have been, that that could impact the trial?

How does that all play into your defense?

You're religious. Does that give you any comfort to know that your mom and dad are now together?

So this was going to be the key area in the autopsy.

Was Judy a romantic?

So this was going to be the key area in the autopsy.

Which seemed a little, like the language was a little odd.

My conclusion was that she had died as the result of neck compression, and I classified her death as a homicide.

The body had suffered severe burns, the front of the body more so than the back, which wasn't as badly burned.

Usually you see healthy middle-aged males and they're trying to get away from the fire. So maybe they're overcome by smoke.

The post-mortem examination by the medical examiner found that he had a bullet in his head.

The forensic scientist was able to determine that ethanol was on the comforter.

Basically, his whole head is severely swollen, and there's bleeding throughout the scalp and soft tissues over the whole head. What did that tell you, doctor? That he had massive trauma to the head.