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Dateline NBC

The Black Box

Wed, 25 Dec 2024

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 A coroner arrives at the scene of a car wreck to find a woman dead. He becomes suspicious when he notices unusual markings on her face. Was her death really an accident? Andrea Canning reports.

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Chapter 1: What happened at the car wreck scene?

0.863 - 7.467 Coroner's Assistant

They told me that this vehicle had gone off the road into this creek bed. She was face up in about ankle deep water.

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7.908 - 10.169 Coroner Terry Tinker

She's got severe injuries to her head.

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10.589 - 13.531 Andrea Canning

Little did you know the mystery that was about to unfold.

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15.832 - 24.978 Rodney Wright

I go into the living room and I see blood all over the place. Went into the bathroom, there's more blood. The whole time we're thinking it was a car wreck and now what happened?

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25.578 - 32.55 Chris

We're sitting there trying to figure out what really happened to our mom. The rumor mill is in overdrive.

Chapter 2: What injuries did Judy suffer?

32.67 - 33.531 Chris

In overdrive.

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33.751 - 35.671 Kay Black

There was gossip that there was an affair.

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35.871 - 37.692 Chris

I told my brother, this is how people get away with murder.

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40.092 - 42.733 Detective Connor O'Donnell

Sex lies in a Christian bike club. Who would have thought?

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42.753 - 43.533 Chris

Exactly.

43.793 - 47.674 Judy's Niece

This was just tearing her apart. You really can't make this up.

47.854 - 53.736 Kay Black

There's no other way to describe a human being like that. Satan spawned.

64.116 - 76.125 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

The slow-moving water, chilled by the December air, trickled over her lifeless body. She was one of my biggest supporters, and she's not here anymore.

89.192 - 98.301 Andrea Canning

How this wife, mother, and grandmother ended up in this creek would consume her family for years. I'm not going to give up until I find what really happened.

Chapter 3: What were the family's suspicions?

111.393 - 128.729 Andrea Canning

We do. Terry Tinker, the coroner for Chester County, South Carolina, had been called here to the site of a fatal traffic accident. It was right before midnight on December 14, 2016. A husband and wife were in their Jeep when it ran off the road, ending up down by this creek.

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129.589 - 134.39 Coroner Terry Tinker

And when it got to the bottom, the nose of the Jeep was right here.

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135.447 - 138.048 Andrea Canning

He was told the 53-year-old woman had been ejected.

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138.068 - 142.128 Coroner Terry Tinker

And I saw that lady laying in the creek. I knew who she was.

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142.629 - 143.069 Andrea Canning

Who was that?

143.309 - 143.949 Coroner Terry Tinker

Judy Baldwin.

144.729 - 145.069 Andrea Canning

Your?

145.469 - 146.089 Coroner Terry Tinker

My friend.

147.37 - 154.311 Andrea Canning

Terry had known Judy or Baldwin most of his life. That must have been just such a shock to the system to see that.

Chapter 4: How did Judy's death affect her family?

673.611 - 674.531 Jamie Baldwin

I said, I love you too.

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674.551 - 678.174 Jamie Baldwin

And I looked up.

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678.395 - 679.776 Jamie Baldwin

I'm pretty sure it was a truck.

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680.837 - 682.978 Jamie Baldwin

It was like three-quarters of the way in our lane.

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684.079 - 689.544 Judy Baldwin (voice)

And, I mean, if I wouldn't have swerved to the right to miss it, we'd have hit head-off.

690.492 - 697.295 Andrea Canning

And that's when he said they went flying down that embankment, ending up in the creek. Jamie said the impact of the crash knocked him out.

697.315 - 706.04 Judy Baldwin (voice)

After about an hour, the interview was finished.

719.522 - 728.53 Andrea Canning

Jamie's story seemed to match what the seasoned detective had seen for himself, like that bloody washcloth in the Jeep and when he went to the house the night of the accident.

729.231 - 736.177 Detective Connor O'Donnell

I see blood around the mantel and blood on the floor. And I did see the ladder leaned up toward the Christmas tree at the time.

Chapter 5: What clues did the coroner find?

867.78 - 870.522 Kay Black

I had a very weird feeling in my stomach.

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871.604 - 877.329 Andrea Canning

Although Jamie had an explanation for why he took his wife to that faraway hospital, it didn't make sense to Jesse.

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877.349 - 883.655 Kay Black

I'm like, why would you not go to Chester Hospital? It's so close to the house if she just bumped her head, you know.

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884.316 - 904.771 Andrea Canning

And why did Jamie take a dark, rural back road to the hospital when he could have taken a much faster nearby highway? Do you think that was odd? That was super odd to me. So Jesse decided to take a bold step. She put her amateur detective hat on and called Jamie. You decided to record the call that you had with Jamie.

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905.291 - 905.991 Kay Black

I did record it.

906.552 - 908.933 Andrea Canning

What in your gut was telling you to record this call?

909.613 - 922.461 Kay Black

I'm not sure what exactly told me to do it. I'm surprised I did it because I was in such shock, but I knew in my heart that something else had happened, and I wanted to hear what he had to say.

922.481 - 924.322 Andrea Canning

Hey, Jamie.

924.342 - 924.622 Kay Black

Hey, Jamie.

Chapter 6: What was the truth behind Judy's relationship?

2403.062 - 2407.246 Medical Examiner

You're religious. Does that give you any comfort to know that your mom and dad are now together?

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2407.326 - 2409.628 Chris

Oh, yeah. I mean, they're in a better place than we are.

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2410.849 - 2416.694 Kay Black

What would you say to Judy if she could hear you? I would just tell her I love her, and I would give her the biggest hug.

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