Megan Basham

And then just generally you're hearing these outlets who are losing their workspaces, accusing the administration of giving preferential treatment to Trump-friendly outlets. And you do have to say it's true that some of these outlets are considerably more favorable to Trump than, say, CNN and The Washington Post, whose own owner, Jeff Bezos, has acknowledged that it has a liberal bias problem.

And then just generally you're hearing these outlets who are losing their workspaces, accusing the administration of giving preferential treatment to Trump-friendly outlets. And you do have to say it's true that some of these outlets are considerably more favorable to Trump than, say, CNN and The Washington Post, whose own owner, Jeff Bezos, has acknowledged that it has a liberal bias problem.

But again, this new rotation program is also providing space to media that are notably left, like The Huffington Post, or you could say consistently neutral, like The Free Press. But I do think it highlights that Trump no longer feels that he has to play nice with frequently hostile legacy outlets anymore.

But again, this new rotation program is also providing space to media that are notably left, like The Huffington Post, or you could say consistently neutral, like The Free Press. But I do think it highlights that Trump no longer feels that he has to play nice with frequently hostile legacy outlets anymore.

And he's no longer willing to give them pride of place just because past administrations did so.

And he's no longer willing to give them pride of place just because past administrations did so.

Well, already ABC has settled with Trump over a defamation lawsuit and issued a public apology. Now it looks like CBS's ownership, Paramount, is set to settle over a $10 billion lawsuit that Trump had filed against 60 Minutes. He claims that during the election, the network deceptively edited its interview with Kamala Harris in order to help her campaign.

Well, already ABC has settled with Trump over a defamation lawsuit and issued a public apology. Now it looks like CBS's ownership, Paramount, is set to settle over a $10 billion lawsuit that Trump had filed against 60 Minutes. He claims that during the election, the network deceptively edited its interview with Kamala Harris in order to help her campaign.

And you're hearing a lot of legacy media figures upset about this, like Jake Tapper at CNN.

And you're hearing a lot of legacy media figures upset about this, like Jake Tapper at CNN.

So I think it's very likely that we could see additional changes from other federal agencies as Trump's cabinet continues to take shape.

So I think it's very likely that we could see additional changes from other federal agencies as Trump's cabinet continues to take shape.

Thanks so much for joining us, Maureen. You know, for those of us who are maybe just catching up with this story a little bit on the later side, I'm wondering if you can give us something of a 10,000-foot summary of this scandal.

Thanks so much for joining us, Maureen. You know, for those of us who are maybe just catching up with this story a little bit on the later side, I'm wondering if you can give us something of a 10,000-foot summary of this scandal.

So before we get to some of the kind of legal ramifications, there's obviously been a lot of leaks. There's been a lot of, I would even say, shifting in public loyalties back and forth. At least that's been my experience. At the outset, I was kind of team Justin. And then I went, well, wait a minute. Okay, that...

So before we get to some of the kind of legal ramifications, there's obviously been a lot of leaks. There's been a lot of, I would even say, shifting in public loyalties back and forth. At least that's been my experience. At the outset, I was kind of team Justin. And then I went, well, wait a minute. Okay, that...

New York Times piece was really persuasive, but then Justin Baldoni's team released some new audio leaks and those kind of things sort of shifted the game a little bit. What's your sense right now of who's on top in the PR war?

New York Times piece was really persuasive, but then Justin Baldoni's team released some new audio leaks and those kind of things sort of shifted the game a little bit. What's your sense right now of who's on top in the PR war?

Well, you know, it seems like there was a moment where Lively could have disengaged and just moved on. And this would have been something of a blip on Hollywood's gossip radar. Why do you think she escalated to a lawsuit that opened up so much more of these internal communications?

Well, you know, it seems like there was a moment where Lively could have disengaged and just moved on. And this would have been something of a blip on Hollywood's gossip radar. Why do you think she escalated to a lawsuit that opened up so much more of these internal communications?