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Dave Ehrenberg and Mike Davis are back with me now.

So we've got to talk about what happened in the Timothy Busfield bail hearing yesterday, where he was granted bail and was not held in state custody pending his trial on charges of alleged child abuse, alleged child molestation.

Two little boys, ages seven at the time,

11 today, alleged twin brothers, alleged that he molested them, that he fondled one outside of his clothing, and that with the other one, it was less of a fondling, more of like inappropriate touching, but one explicitly having his private genitalia touched, he claims, by Timothy Busfield, who was the kid's director on this show, The House Cleaner, I think it was called.

In any event,

He's denied the charges.

And then when the the arrest warrant was issued for him on last Friday out of New Mexico, he took a total of five days.

He didn't turn himself in in Albuquerque, New Mexico until Tuesday.

And now we know that he was driving cross country and he was working with a lawyer to take what they say is a legit polygraph that he says he passed.

Sit with a sexual assault like evaluator to assess just how threatening he may or may not be to children.

and issue a statement on camera to TMZ, which we've already addressed as having signs of deception per Phil Houston, the human lie detector and CIA agent of 25 years who invented their deception detection methods.

We said at the time we had not heard his defense, and now we're getting a look at it because his lawyers came in, both guns blazing, to try to get him bail.

And the most shocking allegation, pretty much everything they alleged in his defense, we kind of knew, but we did not know that the parents of the two boys are a couple of, as the defense lawyers, I'm sorry, adequately said, con men.

The mother and the father both appear to be serial fraudsters, which, let's face it, changes the outlook of this case, changes the likely outcome, and changes how we need to view the allegations themselves.

I'm going to give you guys just a little bit from the defendant's

opposition to the state's motion to hold Busfield without bail.

They say the dad is has been he's a former attorney who was convicted of federal conspiracy and wire fraud and was later disbarred following the prosecution for a multimillion dollar scheme in which he used his law license to deceive vulnerable victims for profit.