Mel Schilling

I think that's a real theme and perhaps a linking point here is feeling safe and vulnerability because both of these things...

At their core are about feeling safe enough to be vulnerable.

Because when you're really honest, it makes you vulnerable.

And when you're having good sex, you know, really raw, open, intimate sex, you're being really vulnerable as well.

So it's interesting, isn't it?

You've both chosen something as your highest value that relates to vulnerability.

So number two for me is... Oh, okay.

Now we're getting some congruence.

It does.

And the right dynamic between the two of you.

It is really interesting, isn't it, that honesty is up there for both of you and this is a mature relationship.

Oh.

You know, I think we were talking a little bit earlier about some values that change over time.

And I think this is one because it takes so much strength and vulnerability to really be honest.

It can be something that develops later in life.

And it's beautiful when you can get there.

It takes bravery.

Yeah.

God.

Interesting.