Melissa Browne

Yeah, absolutely.

I love that you said flag waving.

I've said a picture of me as like a gymnast doing a bit of a roll.

Yeah, so I, look, I think it's like anything.

And it's part of what you, when you look at someone, you presume a lot about them.

And I know certainly that.

When I write for the Herald, for example, if I receive feedback, often it's, oh, what would you know?

I'm sure you're from the North Shore.

Like, really?

I was born in Blacktown Hospital.

So we make a lot of assumptions about people.

And certainly whilst I have built two multimillion dollar businesses, sold one of them, build up assets to the point and sold the accounting firm last year where I was able to choose whether I work or not pre-50, which was always my goal.

I just found that I was constantly in this sabotage loop where I

I just couldn't get out of it.

And looking back now, Brené Brown uses this great quote.

So Brené Brown's a shame researcher from the University of Houston.

And she talks about hustling for your worthiness.

And that certainly was the case for me for a long time.

I just didn't realise it.

So I felt like I had to do more and create more to prove I didn't even know what and then create more.