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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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And before you acquire or apply for a financial product, please read the PDS or product disclosure statement, which should be available on the issuer's website. Lastly, please keep in mind that past performance is not indicative of future performance. Kate, it's wonderful to be back with you. We've got a special guest with us today and that person is Mel Brown. Mel, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me. We've got so much to cover. You've written quite a few books and I guess many of our audience would be familiar with you.
but maybe we can just go over a bit about you and your backstory because, you know, if people look at you now, I read in your books that you were voted in Australia's 100 women of influence and you've got all these accolades, but from speaking with you in the past, I know that that wasn't always the case, right?
Like you weren't always this, I don't know, this flag waving money, I guess, role model for people. You had to go through it pretty tough yourself for a time there, right?
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Chapter 2: How can our upbringing affect our financial decisions?
They're super restrictive. You do it for a period of time. And then when that really restrictive period of time's over, you just bust out. And certainly with diets, you put all the weight on and more that you had before. And I believe there's so much of an analogy between food and money. So I use that a lot. So which is why that diet budget, I think people get that concept.
And I'm not saying that you shouldn't understand how much your life costs. That's so important. And I talk about that in the book. And I talk about habits that where you can both use different bank accounts and automate money to different bank accounts so that you don't have to use the budget. But budgeting down to the minutiae of how much am I going to spend on gifts?
How much am I going to spend on hairdressing? For me, understanding how much your life costs and understanding what goals you're excited about. So not goals your peers think you should have or your family or society. goals you're really excited about and motivated to act on, that's more powerful than a budget could ever be.
And then it's setting up the great financial habits that support those goals.
Mel, what you're saying resonates and the book, having read through it, what you said in there resonates with me because I meet so many people who, you know, you come across them all the time. I'm sure you do as an advisor and accountant. They might have six-figure paychecks and yet they don't save a dollar. But then you have someone that's on $40,000 and saves 20%.
You're like, this is unbelievable. Absolutely. And what I keep coming back to is it's not necessarily someone's level of income or even their education, even though we know that from a broader scope, it kind of influences it. What it comes back to for me is kind of people's personality. And, you know, you can have all the great budgets and spreadsheets in the world, but actually...
you know, them actually following it is a totally different thing. And, you know, I think for myself too, I think I sabotaged a lot when I was probably a late teenager too. You know, I got the fancy cars thinking that materialistic thing would bring me some type of happiness. But it wasn't really until I sat back and questioned the things around me.
And I think this is where your money story or the nurture piece kind of comes into it versus maybe the money type, which is the personality. Would that be fair to say that's kind of the two, money type versus money story?
Yeah, so money story and money environment and money type, definitely. But you're right, it is understanding that, you know, especially in our comparison culture where you look across and, oh, well, they've got that and they're at my age and stage, maybe I should have that too. And we all carry around a personal spending device in our pocket that used to be a phone and
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Chapter 3: What are the common money triggers that people face?
We talk about substance abuse We talk about many different things gambling what have you but in the back of the book you talk about how I guess compulsions and addictions can impact your life and And I think this is something that not enough experts talk about because they're just almost too sensitive or they're worried about backlash from it.
Can you talk us through a bit about, you know, what is, I guess, a financial addiction and some of the steps people can take either for themselves or for other people to get back control?
Yeah, absolutely. So the last couple of chapters are about stresses and sabotage but also addictions and compulsions. And it was really important for me to write those two chapters because what I know is that stress and sabotage, which is a different, different than addictions and compulsions, can undo all of the good work that you've done with your finances.
So it was really important for me to recognise that and to say, right, let's put a plan in place for this. Let's look at when those inflection points happen and let's put a plan in place for it. But I also wanted to acknowledge addictions and compulsions because I'm talking in the book about money stories and money environments and how we innately behave.
And I didn't want someone reading the book to put down an addictive behaviour as how they innately behaved or the money story they were given and to kind of think that that's what I was talking about when I absolutely am not. So Like you, Owen, I've got a family history of addictions and compulsions.
We've got everything in my family history from drug addiction and alcohol addiction as well as eating and working and, you know, you can almost name it and we have it. It's fantastic. So I know personally that those compulsions are something that I need to manage in my life. Particularly someone, I know when we first started talking, I mentioned that I had childhood traumas.
And what I do suffer from, and I've been clinically diagnosed, so I don't say it glibly, is PTSD from it. And I know how that affects my finances. And it does. So what I wanted to do is acknowledge in the book that that is a thing, that it's real, that people aren't imagining it and that it can play it in our finances in a way that's absolutely destructive.
Where that is, with me, it was never an addictive behaviour, but it was compulsive where it was working and hustling and spending. So I would get caught in this sabotage cycle. But for others, it is addictive shopping. It's addictive gambling. And what the stats are telling us is that this is on a rise, on the rise in our society.
And what we want to do is acknowledge it and to tell people and what I've suggested all the way through that chapter is that people seek help through a financial counsellor and a therapist. It's the only way. That's not the sort of thing that you can fix by looking at financial habits. That's the deeper work to realise and understand. why that addiction is there and to get serious help with that.
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