Melissa DeRosa

And it just seems like it's Trump, like, you know, thumping his chest.

No, and I don't agree that the dysfunction in Venezuela and the lack of oil that's been produced is a problem.

But I'm saying more that like the perception I feel like became he made up an excuse to go in and take over this country because we want to take over their oil reserves or we want...

And so that feels not appropriate, right?

It doesn't feel like we should be invading countries because we want their oil.

And obviously, it's all much more nuanced than this.

But I'm saying for the average American, I think a lot of people took that away.

And so it's a two-step problem.

Well, again, I think that part of the problem was it was sort of like a one day story and then everyone moved on from it.

Right.

Which is also a product of this world that we live in, where it's nine news cycles a day.

And so it's like the whiplash.

And I mean, you didn't ask this question, but I think that like a deeper problem the president has right now and the Republican Party has is that there's this fatigue in America where people are so exhausted by like waking up to find out we took over Venezuela.

that like it's like you're not even prepared to listen to the explanation and then you're on to the next but i think that i think that of course there's always going to be a place for amplifying your message and message discipline and trying to use the apparatuses to the extent they still exist to keep everybody on message and to explain things to the american public in a disciplined way i actually think generally speaking the republicans are better than it at it than the democrats although i think that you know both sides always think the other side is better at something

Yes, because the Democratic Party is in such disarray right now and there's such a power vacuum.

I think that Trump thinks that he himself can control the message.

You know, his press secretary has a press conference.

He takes it over.

He speaks for an hour and 45 minutes.

That's what network news or cable news shows for an hour and 45 minutes.