Melissa Doman

Mm-hmm.

that having those conversations almost seems like it's a dying practice based on where we are right now in the space-time continuum.

If you even think 50 years ago, I mean, people just generally, I mean, they didn't talk about mental health in the workplace 50 years ago, but what was expected of them at work?

Mm-hmm.

in my opinion, was far more generally reasonable than what is expected of people now in terms of output.

So I realized that was a long winding answer because it just felt like a really big question.

Well, I think the resistance, you know, when it comes to leaders resisting it, when it comes to leaders resisting the conversation to have with employees, generally speaking, it's because they don't want to say the wrong thing.

Hmm.

And they don't want to open themselves up to risk and liability.

Now, again, I understand that.

In every country, there are generally laws that exist about talking about mental health in the workplace, what's allowed, what's not allowed.

In certain countries, there are laws around something called duty of care, like in the United Kingdom.

We don't have that in the United States.

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Um, but, uh, so, you know, and I get that.

And that's why I also make sure workplaces understand you have to understand laws around mental health, not just, you know, physical health and things like that.

Uh,

But yeah, it's really not wanting to say the wrong thing and not wanting to open themselves up to liability.