Melissa Doman

So if someone is concerned about having that conversation in their organization, the first thing I would say is, well, if you're concerned, where does that concern come from?

Is it because it's just unfamiliar and you haven't had the conversation yet?

Or is it because you've observed interactions in that company that gives you pause?

That's the key difference.

Because if the concern is just from not knowing or people are nice, but they maybe don't know what to do, you can solve for that.

If you've seen mental health conversations go very poorly with other people in the company, the company is telling you who they will and will not be and the conversations they will and will not have.

So not everybody, though, can afford to go to another job for lots of reasons, whether it's

the credentials they have, the specific salary that they need to have, they don't want to take a pay cut, or it's hard to move within an industry.

Lots of reasons that people can't leave companies.

But if you can, and a workplace is telling you it is not psychologically safe to have the conversation, don't.

And then have the conversation outside of that environment in other places where you can get those needs met.

And this is if you can't leave the company.

If you can leave the company,

There are many organizations that do provide psychological safety to have these conversations.

And I know that because they're my clients.

We don't?

I had to make the joke.

I'm sorry.

Because history has taught us to do that.

That's why.