Melissa Ruggieri

It depends the type of artist who you are.

If you're a band, I think maybe playing in the garage is still the best way to start.

But as far as some of these young pop stars, you know, the female ones especially.

Taylor has even shown us just the power of the Internet and, you know, just one dance in a video with that could spark.

And I think someone like Olivia Dean, you know, is absolutely an indication of that.

Although she also has she's someone who has a really old school quality to her.

You know, I get to sit down with Clive Davis, the legendary music mogul, every year and chat.

And I talked to him on Friday and I said, you know, if you were he's going to be 94.

So he's not really, you know.

actively working much anymore.

But I said, you know, if you were going to sign anybody today, who out there is someone you would sign?

And he didn't even hesitate.

And he said, Olivia Dean.

He said, if she auditioned for me, I would sign her right now.

And I said, why is that?

And he said, are you coming to my party Saturday?

I said, I am.

And he said, she's good and you'll see that.

So, you know, everybody's looking for something different, but I think someone like Olivia certainly has so much, you know, flair to her at such a young age.

And Sabrina, you know, Sabrina is sort of the Olivia Rodrigo of the past year as far as the preteen girl following and, you know, even even older than that, going into, you know, 20 something year old women.