Meredith Whittaker

And why do you have the choice to do that to begin with instead of a more socially beneficial democratic process of determining how we're comfortable with technology entering our lives?

For the gentle listener, I was kind of joking because that rhetoric around being attacked and being like, you know, like, oh my gosh, was like very much the mood at that time. I was at Google when Snowden dropped and I remember just things popped off and I actually had to get, I got on a plane.

For the gentle listener, I was kind of joking because that rhetoric around being attacked and being like, you know, like, oh my gosh, was like very much the mood at that time. I was at Google when Snowden dropped and I remember just things popped off and I actually had to get, I got on a plane.

For the gentle listener, I was kind of joking because that rhetoric around being attacked and being like, you know, like, oh my gosh, was like very much the mood at that time. I was at Google when Snowden dropped and I remember just things popped off and I actually had to get, I got on a plane.

I don't know, you all probably have a memory similar to me of like when the Guardian stories with the Verizon, like the Glenn Greenwald stories. It was night in New York. It was probably morning the next day you guys saw it. I remember sitting on my couch and being like, holy fuck.

I don't know, you all probably have a memory similar to me of like when the Guardian stories with the Verizon, like the Glenn Greenwald stories. It was night in New York. It was probably morning the next day you guys saw it. I remember sitting on my couch and being like, holy fuck.

I don't know, you all probably have a memory similar to me of like when the Guardian stories with the Verizon, like the Glenn Greenwald stories. It was night in New York. It was probably morning the next day you guys saw it. I remember sitting on my couch and being like, holy fuck.

And realizing just how big that was because it was the kind of thing we'd been talking about, speculating about in the rooms that you and I were in, Linus. And then it was like, oh, receipts, shit. And there was a lot of unclarity.

And realizing just how big that was because it was the kind of thing we'd been talking about, speculating about in the rooms that you and I were in, Linus. And then it was like, oh, receipts, shit. And there was a lot of unclarity.

And realizing just how big that was because it was the kind of thing we'd been talking about, speculating about in the rooms that you and I were in, Linus. And then it was like, oh, receipts, shit. And there was a lot of unclarity.

There was, you know, that prism slide where it was like, is Google just giving them full access that, you know, people were rioting inside, you know, security engineers were threatening to quit. And then that morning I got on a plane to Tordev. And so, yeah, in Berlin, actually.

There was, you know, that prism slide where it was like, is Google just giving them full access that, you know, people were rioting inside, you know, security engineers were threatening to quit. And then that morning I got on a plane to Tordev. And so, yeah, in Berlin, actually.

There was, you know, that prism slide where it was like, is Google just giving them full access that, you know, people were rioting inside, you know, security engineers were threatening to quit. And then that morning I got on a plane to Tordev. And so, yeah, in Berlin, actually.

I mean, I give you all a pass because you did tell us all along.

I mean, I give you all a pass because you did tell us all along.

I mean, I give you all a pass because you did tell us all along.

Well, I mean, I love Signal and I'm really… Yeah, it's the only cool tech company in my view. And I think sort of boiling down like what is Signal in one word is a little – I'll start somewhere and we'll end another place because I think it's actually – it's a number of things and kind of represents even more. Signal started – Back, you know, the late 2000s, right?

Well, I mean, I love Signal and I'm really… Yeah, it's the only cool tech company in my view. And I think sort of boiling down like what is Signal in one word is a little – I'll start somewhere and we'll end another place because I think it's actually – it's a number of things and kind of represents even more. Signal started – Back, you know, the late 2000s, right?

Well, I mean, I love Signal and I'm really… Yeah, it's the only cool tech company in my view. And I think sort of boiling down like what is Signal in one word is a little – I'll start somewhere and we'll end another place because I think it's actually – it's a number of things and kind of represents even more. Signal started – Back, you know, the late 2000s, right?

And we can, you know, we can date it to whenever, right? Signal as the integrated app was 2013, but, you know, Red Phone, Text Secure predated that. And this is, you know, there's no iPhone. Jabber, like, is the competition, right? It's like web client-based chat. There's no, you know, people aren't carrying smartphones. There isn't, WhatsApp doesn't exist. iMessage doesn't exist.