Meredith Whittaker

At the same time, we have reporting in the Wall Street Journal that provides a receipt for what all of us should have suspected all along is that

back doors that were inserted in the u.s telecommunications infrastructure for government intercept have been hacked by you know chinese intelligence and maybe others right so we're you know i think at this moment we have a lot of there's a yeah the facts are on our side and

back doors that were inserted in the u.s telecommunications infrastructure for government intercept have been hacked by you know chinese intelligence and maybe others right so we're you know i think at this moment we have a lot of there's a yeah the facts are on our side and

back doors that were inserted in the u.s telecommunications infrastructure for government intercept have been hacked by you know chinese intelligence and maybe others right so we're you know i think at this moment we have a lot of there's a yeah the facts are on our side and

And the fact that the facts are on the side is permeating into these discussions and making it harder and harder for them to push it forward in the European Commission.

And the fact that the facts are on the side is permeating into these discussions and making it harder and harder for them to push it forward in the European Commission.

And the fact that the facts are on the side is permeating into these discussions and making it harder and harder for them to push it forward in the European Commission.

Exactly. And that's why I think we're not going to win. There's going to be another pretext if we win this one, right? There's going to be another angle if we win this one. We just have to keep building our muscle to sustain this fight probably forever. Because I don't think the will to power is going away. I think they're just going to keep trying to rearrange the reasoning.

Exactly. And that's why I think we're not going to win. There's going to be another pretext if we win this one, right? There's going to be another angle if we win this one. We just have to keep building our muscle to sustain this fight probably forever. Because I don't think the will to power is going away. I think they're just going to keep trying to rearrange the reasoning.

Exactly. And that's why I think we're not going to win. There's going to be another pretext if we win this one, right? There's going to be another angle if we win this one. We just have to keep building our muscle to sustain this fight probably forever. Because I don't think the will to power is going away. I think they're just going to keep trying to rearrange the reasoning.

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I mean, yes, it does.

I mean, yes, it does.

I mean, yes, it does.

Well, in terms of political discussions, it helps that we're right. You know, like we bring in, there's a huge amount of evidence that a lot of people haven't seen in these political discussions. I think we're on the, you know, our side has been on the back foot for a while.

Well, in terms of political discussions, it helps that we're right. You know, like we bring in, there's a huge amount of evidence that a lot of people haven't seen in these political discussions. I think we're on the, you know, our side has been on the back foot for a while.

Well, in terms of political discussions, it helps that we're right. You know, like we bring in, there's a huge amount of evidence that a lot of people haven't seen in these political discussions. I think we're on the, you know, our side has been on the back foot for a while.

There has been just in civil society, there's been a cutting funding to privacy advocacy has happened, you know, since around 2000. You know, there's sort of a history here. I think kind of there's a move toward tech accountability happened out of the after the 2016 election. You know, there's the Cambridge Analytica scandal. There's all of this.