Merryn Somerset Webb

So creativity, the wealth of creativity is –

moving across disciplines.

And our current degree courses tend to be confined within disciplines.

I think even though we don't have the jobs, we can guess what the capabilities that will be needed and then ask ourselves, is our schooling and further on higher education system equipping kids with those capabilities?

The answer is a resolute no to that question currently, Merrin, and that would give me cause for pause.

Could and should it be fixed?

Yes.

Everything can be fixed.

This is great.

Again, brings us back to political will and finding the political space to do all these things.

If you were going back to university now, as not a retiree, obviously, as an older person, what would you study?

Well, you know what?

I am at the moment, as you know...

I am intrigued about how we make lifelong learning a reality.

So something in that sort of education meets entrepreneurship space.

I'm not sure what the degree course would be.

Maybe it doesn't exist.

There are degrees in entrepreneurship.

There are degrees in business.

There are degrees in...