Mia Freedman

Yeah, I think that's really interesting.

I think that, I mean, obviously, I shouldn't say it goes without saying, but obviously, any kind of violence is abhorrent.

Domestic violence statistics are overwhelmingly that usually the perpetrator is a man.

But obviously, in this instance, that isn't the case.

It's amazing that it was excused, almost trivialized and seen as a bit of a fun scandal until you see it.

And that's the thing.

And this is what I always say to my son about, you know, or about violent video games and things is like,

When you've got that removed distance between you and an act of violence, it's easy to not have empathy.

It's easy to see it as some kind of sport almost.

But anyone who sees violence up close in real life,

you suddenly see this very different human impact.

And so it seems to me incredibly cynical.

I mean, I don't know all the ins and outs, but on the face of it, it seems incredibly cynical that they were like, she'll be a great bachelorette because, I don't know, maybe she's feisty.

She's got a big following.

She's really attractive.

We know she's probably going to cause some drama.

And then you're confronted with, no, this is why she has this reputation.

And you're like, oh, we didn't know it was that bad.

It's like, well...

So what do they think is going to happen, right?