Mia Freedman

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That's interesting.

But do you think, knowing him as you do and obviously smart journo guy,

But do you think he also wants that level of Rogan influence?

Like he wants to?

Yes, but Em schooled me on the show and told me that he was a really big deal.

Yeah.

Which makes sense, right?

Yeah.

And then the third guy he had on, and I listened to some of that this morning, is a content creator called Big Chocky, who is very Australia first.

So again, like echoing the politics of Hanson, but also was a little bit loose about like in the first five minutes he threw away a line about how antidepressants are bad for you.

And you know what I mean?

Like definitely walking up again to that.

And how does Carl respond to that?

From what I heard, he was very complimentary to him.

He didn't pick up that particular thread.

It's interesting because it does feel very Rogan-y.

So I guess I'm interested to know if we think this is a purely I'm protecting my future commercial play, or if you think that Carl might be the kind of person who does think...

I want to be picking the Prime Minister, you know what I mean, like the Alan Jones of the new era.