Mia Mottley

Is it something that we're not thinking about?

Where are the possible solutions?

How do you think of- I fear that the conversation about immigration and migration is rooted in racism.

In what way?

Rather than rooted in the needs of a country.

I think that people are fearful of becoming a minority in their own country.

And that's natural.

You can't think that.

But at the same time, without the influx of people, you're not going to be able to stabilize or get the growth that you need as a country.

And one of the problems is that in the world, we have worked out how to move money.

Nobody worries about how to move money globally.

But as soon as you start talking about moving people,

Everybody gets nervous.

And in December 2018, I think, at the OACP, Organization of African Caribbean and Pacific States in Nairobi, I made the point, and I continue to make it, that we need a proper deal for migrants.

And this notion of people having to drown just because they want a better life when countries elsewhere actually need them and can provide opportunity and dignity to them, something is fundamentally wrong.

And regrettably, that's one of the things I can say, we're unfaring people.

We definitely are.

We are unfaring people.

And we're seeing people die unnecessarily when we can have a structured program.

And part of it comes back then to the Sustainable Development Goals, the SDGs.