Mia Mottley

And if so, who are the winners and who are the losers?

Because if you don't see people, you're doing nothing.

There will always be somebody who will suffer as a result of the change in the status quo.

And there will always be somebody potentially who can benefit.

But sometimes you need to go in just like a sculptor and you need to just smooth it out.

Because even though you're going in one direction, you may find that that's an outlier that you really need to bring back.

And if not down the line, it'll lead to X, Y, Z. How do you maintain your hope being such a small nation?

Because...

I always think to myself, Barbados to me is the perfect analogy for what many humans feel in life.

They feel small, they feel insignificant, they feel like an afterthought.

And yet every day you'll go out and you'll meet with other world leaders who will give you the time.

You will speak at the United Nations, knowing full well that many of the nations that you're speaking to see you as an insignificant part of the conversations that they're having.

So I guess it's two questions really.

One is where did that hope come from and what keeps it going?

And the second part of it is,

How have you found, or what have you found enables you to make an outsized impact relative to where you're coming from?

Let me say that hope is human.

Without hope, you lose your humanity, ultimately, I feel so strongly.

You have to believe that the next minute, the next moment, the next month, the next year can, in fact, be better, even if you're going through the hardest of times.

Yeah.