Mia Mottley

But for the most part, people want to stay home.

What chases them out is a war.

What pushes them out is a famine.

What pulls them somewhere is an opportunity that they don't have where they're from.

But if they had those things in the place that they were...

Yeah.

You find that that would stay their home forever.

And when you said that, I remember thinking, this is wild that a world leader would say that, pay people to stay in their country.

Yeah.

And it may not be as crude as that.

It may be in terms of the development package and the investment opportunities.

But it broke through when you said that, I think.

But that's the point.

And the thing is to get people's attention to start to think differently.

Yes.

Because what I find is that there are too many assumptions that we accept

as rigid positions rather than, and the thing I say to my government, to my ministers all the time, to the country all the time, let us deconstruct and reconstruct.

What is the public policy we're trying to serve?

What is the public mischief we need to avoid?

Has technology made it more possible or easier for us to do things in a way that we weren't doing it before?