Mia Mottley

that some of the very same people who were opponents eventually become converts.

Yeah, that's true.

And I think that that is why I believe first always in dialogue.

And that's why even what happened with Charlie Kirk I think is regrettable and horrific because violence is never the answer.

Violence is the mechanism by which a few retain instant gratification or instant power, but it doesn't sustain you in the long run.

And I think that the ability to have conversation must always, always be our first option.

So I'm more than prepared to be able to say, look, let us look and see how we can free up the movement of capital to be able to help those who really need it.

And quite frankly, I can lose weight

In terms of even debt sustainability, I use the metaphor of losing weight, partly because it's a personal challenge.

You know what I'm saying?

But you can lose weight at two pounds a month, three pounds a month, six pounds a month, 10 pounds a month.

There comes a point at which the rate at which you lose it is unsustainable.

Yeah, it's unsustainable now.

And we said simply to the international community in the Bridgetown Initiative that the rate at which you want us to achieve debt sustainability as developing countries in the world

is too stark a rate, too rapid.

And that if you do that, I can bring back down debt overnight, because I can negotiate new terms.

But I cannot replace a generation of persons in under 15 to 20 years.

So let us understand what is immutable,

and what can change.

And quite frankly, what you think is immutable is immediately renegotiated in a compromise agreement between lawyers and financiers.