Mia Wong

So this was passed in November at the U.S.

Conference of Catholic Bishops, which they have regular meetings and decide policies and stuff.

And it's one of the things, and this is going to be a recurring theme, and this is the degree to which I think even people think of themselves as progressives, fairly left-wing.

have kind of bought hook, line, and sinker some of the propaganda.

And it is overwhelmingly propaganda coming out of the Catholic Church since the mid-2010s when Pope Francis got in.

So you were seeing from this conference the big news in a lot of progressive circles was, oh, well, they made this statement against the Trump administration, immigration.

Yeah.

But here's the thing.

That was a statement.

Certainly it seemed better than if they supported ICE, but it was a symbolic step largely.

Yeah, like they didn't even do like the very baseline thing, which would be like excommunicating J.D.

Vance, a thing they could do and didn't because they're fucking cowards.

Yeah.

But they didn't even do that.

Yes.

And we're going to get back to that.

And often worse than cowards.

Yeah.

So at this conference that got most of the headlines, but they also passed this very draconian anti-trans health care ban.

It passed overwhelmingly.