Mia Wong

Four in 10 of the largest healthcare networks are Catholic.

That's how extensive this was.

And now trans healthcare is banned in all of them.

Absolutely.

Yeah, and that's something that has an absolutely massive rolling impact, right?

Because again, it's not just that it's like outwardly Catholic hospitals.

This is something I think you're going to talk about more later, but it's also like it's people who have healthcare plans through something that's affiliated with the church.

There are all of these ways in which

suddenly just enormous numbers of people had their healthcare taken away effectively overnight.

Because the primary way that anti-trans healthcare oppression has been understood has been through the state level.

And I understand why it's like that, because a lot of it has been coming from the state, both on...

This is where you get into confusing American terminology, but both in terms of the federal government and the state-level governments, right?

People have been a huge focus on that, but the distribution of the Catholic health care system is cutting through the lines of what people sort of had previously assumed to be safe.

And this is something that is a threat to trans people effectively everywhere.

And it's compounding, as you were talking about earlier, with the sort of crisis of

affordability and coverage because a lot of these yes healthcare clinics and hospitals and practices are the ones that are actually covered by insurance yes and there you can you get a situation where like they're secular ones but you can't go to them because they're not covered by your fucking insurance so they're unbelievably expensive and this gets to a reality that goes through a lot of our coverage and

which is that trans people are an overwhelmingly working-class demographic.

I don't think that gets said enough.

It doesn't get picked, even in some queer and trans media.

But that is incredibly important here.