Mia Wong

No, this is affecting plenty of people who have never set foot in a Catholic church.

Yeah.

who are remotely Catholic, even the providers that they're going to aren't Catholic.

And this is still happening because that's the kind of sway in power they have.

And it's not been seriously challenged, including by liberals and even too many leftists.

And you mentioned the Southern Baptist Commission earlier.

It isn't just the Catholic Church, but because of the sheer scale and the centralized nature of its hierarchy,

they are certainly probably the single most damaging institution on this front.

The SBC is a problem while they operate on far too vast a scale.

They don't operate in the scale the Catholic Church does.

Yeah, and this is, like, this is, you know, fundamentally, like, part of the issue here is just...

there's a, I don't know if advantage is the right term here, but like the centralization of the Catholic church relative to like the sort of divided Protestants and nominations allows them to wield power.

Yes.

Like collectively in a way that is a lot harder for something like the SBC where just like, it just doesn't have the scale that like that, that the church does.

And like that the Catholic church doesn't because the Catholic church is

is this large is able to just buy out this much of the hospital system.

And then because of the top-down structures where the bishops can just go in and vote and implement this stuff,

It's a really, really, really significant problem.

Yes.

That is just not being dealt with.