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Mia Wong

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Yeah. There's this Vicki Osterwald line that I think about a lot from her book In Defense of Fluting, where she talks about how I feel like it was Ferguson that this is about where like the police chief is talking about the damage to the community and they keep saying our Walmart. It's like going into a Walmart and buying something is not a community. Right.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Like, you know, they like that, like those, those kinds of relations are not actual community relations. Yeah. But when the bosses talk about community, that's what they mean. They mean like our collective community Walmart. They mean preserving the relation of extraction that they have. Yeah. And we are using the same word and reading something literally so radically different than that.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Like, you know, they like that, like those, those kinds of relations are not actual community relations. Yeah. But when the bosses talk about community, that's what they mean. They mean like our collective community Walmart. They mean preserving the relation of extraction that they have. Yeah. And we are using the same word and reading something literally so radically different than that.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Like, you know, they like that, like those, those kinds of relations are not actual community relations. Yeah. But when the bosses talk about community, that's what they mean. They mean like our collective community Walmart. They mean preserving the relation of extraction that they have. Yeah. And we are using the same word and reading something literally so radically different than that.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

I think this is a good place to sort of start coming to a close. This is a fundamental question about what the nature of our society is going to be, right? Is the fundamental nature of our society that a community is a bunch of people who buy things and a bunch of people who make money from you buying things and who make money from the labor that you do, right?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

I think this is a good place to sort of start coming to a close. This is a fundamental question about what the nature of our society is going to be, right? Is the fundamental nature of our society that a community is a bunch of people who buy things and a bunch of people who make money from you buying things and who make money from the labor that you do, right?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

I think this is a good place to sort of start coming to a close. This is a fundamental question about what the nature of our society is going to be, right? Is the fundamental nature of our society that a community is a bunch of people who buy things and a bunch of people who make money from you buying things and who make money from the labor that you do, right?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And then take credit for the labor and take credit both financially for the labor and in public for the labor, right? Is our society going to just be a bunch of pure commercial relations where a bunch of people get very, very rich off the labor of everyone else in the society and get to rule them as sort of like these petty tyrant kings?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And then take credit for the labor and take credit both financially for the labor and in public for the labor, right? Is our society going to just be a bunch of pure commercial relations where a bunch of people get very, very rich off the labor of everyone else in the society and get to rule them as sort of like these petty tyrant kings?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And then take credit for the labor and take credit both financially for the labor and in public for the labor, right? Is our society going to just be a bunch of pure commercial relations where a bunch of people get very, very rich off the labor of everyone else in the society and get to rule them as sort of like these petty tyrant kings?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Or is it going to be a society where the people who produce the society control it?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Or is it going to be a society where the people who produce the society control it?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Or is it going to be a society where the people who produce the society control it?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And that society is a democratic society, is an egalitarian society, is a society where people are free to do the things that they need to do, and people are free to have a life where they can fucking pay for their groceries, where they're not forced to go to the market for all of the things that they need to live, where you can survive in a way that doesn't involve subjecting yourself to just a tyrant for a third of your life.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And that society is a democratic society, is an egalitarian society, is a society where people are free to do the things that they need to do, and people are free to have a life where they can fucking pay for their groceries, where they're not forced to go to the market for all of the things that they need to live, where you can survive in a way that doesn't involve subjecting yourself to just a tyrant for a third of your life.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And that society is a democratic society, is an egalitarian society, is a society where people are free to do the things that they need to do, and people are free to have a life where they can fucking pay for their groceries, where they're not forced to go to the market for all of the things that they need to live, where you can survive in a way that doesn't involve subjecting yourself to just a tyrant for a third of your life.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Yeah, dignity and freedom and where you don't have to go home at the end of the day of making your boss money worrying about whether you're going to be able to eat or not.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Yeah, dignity and freedom and where you don't have to go home at the end of the day of making your boss money worrying about whether you're going to be able to eat or not.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

Yeah, dignity and freedom and where you don't have to go home at the end of the day of making your boss money worrying about whether you're going to be able to eat or not.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 178

And that's also a society that does not involve, again, at the very highest level, you getting thrown into prison camps because your god king hates you. And we can do this. We can live in that society.