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Micah Joel

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524 total appearances

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PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Sie haben bereits Chat-GPT-Agenten für Kunden-Service implementiert, was der erste offensichtliche Ort war. Wie die AI-Story, die ich vorhin gesagt habe, ist AI wirklich schwer zu demoen. Es ist einfach zu demoen und es ist schwer zu demoen. Es ist einfach zu demoen, weil es flaschig ist und es cool ist und die Leute es lieben.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Sie haben bereits Chat-GPT-Agenten für Kunden-Service implementiert, was der erste offensichtliche Ort war. Wie die AI-Story, die ich vorhin gesagt habe, ist AI wirklich schwer zu demoen. Es ist einfach zu demoen und es ist schwer zu demoen. Es ist einfach zu demoen, weil es flaschig ist und es cool ist und die Leute es lieben.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Es ist schwer zu demoen, weil, wie du gesagt hast, es unvergesslich ist. Und du weißt nicht immer, was du daraus bekommen wirst, wenn du die gleiche Frage ansiehst. Halluzinationen. Halluzinationen. Und als jemand, der... Ich bin im Theater gearbeitet. Und das ist der Grund, warum ich Demos liebe. Es ist wie eine Performance. Ja, es ist.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Es ist schwer zu demoen, weil, wie du gesagt hast, es unvergesslich ist. Und du weißt nicht immer, was du daraus bekommen wirst, wenn du die gleiche Frage ansiehst. Halluzinationen. Halluzinationen. Und als jemand, der... Ich bin im Theater gearbeitet. Und das ist der Grund, warum ich Demos liebe. Es ist wie eine Performance. Ja, es ist.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Und wenn jemand mir gesagt hätte, als ich im Theater war, in der Hochschule, du kannst wirklich Geld verdienen. Und du musst nicht ein berühmter Schauspieler sein. Ich würde mich aufmerksam machen. Ich habe das nur später gefunden. But when you're doing a theater production, you're trying your best to control every part of that.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Und wenn jemand mir gesagt hätte, als ich im Theater war, in der Hochschule, du kannst wirklich Geld verdienen. Und du musst nicht ein berühmter Schauspieler sein. Ich würde mich aufmerksam machen. Ich habe das nur später gefunden. But when you're doing a theater production, you're trying your best to control every part of that.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

You're trying your best to exert as much control as you can over the final product. And it's very tricky with AI to do that, because AI by definition is a little bit loose. It's sort of conversational, and I don't want conversational. I want it to say the same thing that we said in rehearsal on opening night.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

You're trying your best to exert as much control as you can over the final product. And it's very tricky with AI to do that, because AI by definition is a little bit loose. It's sort of conversational, and I don't want conversational. I want it to say the same thing that we said in rehearsal on opening night.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

So when companies are exploring their AI products and rushing them to market right now, as we all are, I think it's important to think again, how do you sell this? How do you make this compelling to the customer and not just cross your fingers when you type something in that, yes, he's going to get the right answer on their screen.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

So when companies are exploring their AI products and rushing them to market right now, as we all are, I think it's important to think again, how do you sell this? How do you make this compelling to the customer and not just cross your fingers when you type something in that, yes, he's going to get the right answer on their screen.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

And in some cases, that may mean circumventing the AI altogether and equipping the SE with tools they can use to just predict the outcome very specifically by typing it in beforehand. It gets back to our discussion about live demo versus not live demo. I think there are some cases where it may make sense to do a not live demo and in some cases where it should be live.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

And in some cases, that may mean circumventing the AI altogether and equipping the SE with tools they can use to just predict the outcome very specifically by typing it in beforehand. It gets back to our discussion about live demo versus not live demo. I think there are some cases where it may make sense to do a not live demo and in some cases where it should be live.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

And in AI, I'm leaning toward simulation in cases where there's a high risk, where there's a possibility of giving the wrong answer and causing the deal to fail.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

And in AI, I'm leaning toward simulation in cases where there's a high risk, where there's a possibility of giving the wrong answer and causing the deal to fail.

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Ja. But they'll still lose the deal. And the SE. I joke, an SE can't win a deal, but they can lose one. So yeah, be nice to your SEs, by the way, because they can lose your deals for you. But yeah, I agree with you. I think functionally, that's exactly true. From an SEs world, what I see is, I want total control over what my business looks like. No, I'm with you. But what are you seeing?

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Ja. But they'll still lose the deal. And the SE. I joke, an SE can't win a deal, but they can lose one. So yeah, be nice to your SEs, by the way, because they can lose your deals for you. But yeah, I agree with you. I think functionally, that's exactly true. From an SEs world, what I see is, I want total control over what my business looks like. No, I'm with you. But what are you seeing?

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Because you've been around. I've been off vacationing for a year. What have you seen going on in the AI world and how it's impacting solution engineers?

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Because you've been around. I've been off vacationing for a year. What have you seen going on in the AI world and how it's impacting solution engineers?

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Richtig. Es ist lustig, dass SEs, um so technologisch fortzusetzen, wie SEs können, oft die letzten sind, um neue Technologien zu benutzen, um ihre Jobs einfacher zu machen. Und ich denke, wenn wir über eine Demo-Organisation oder eine SE-Support-Organisation sprechen, ist Teil ihrer Arbeit, zu sagen, hey, wie können wir AI benutzen, um ein SEs Leben einfacher zu machen?

PreSales Unleashed | Sales Engineering im B2B Software Vertrieb
🇬🇧 License to Demo: Everyone Should Have a Q (Gadgets & Tools for PreSales at Scale) - With Micah Joel (201)

Richtig. Es ist lustig, dass SEs, um so technologisch fortzusetzen, wie SEs können, oft die letzten sind, um neue Technologien zu benutzen, um ihre Jobs einfacher zu machen. Und ich denke, wenn wir über eine Demo-Organisation oder eine SE-Support-Organisation sprechen, ist Teil ihrer Arbeit, zu sagen, hey, wie können wir AI benutzen, um ein SEs Leben einfacher zu machen?