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Michael Barbaro

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The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Gunasekara is the aide who handed him that snowball, and that's one of the things she's pretty well known for in Washington.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Huh.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

She enters the first Trump administration where she is instrumental in pushing for the United States to withdraw from the Paris Agreement, which President Trump eventually did.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Mm-hmm.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

During the Biden administration, she argued strenuously against policies that he put in place to reduce emissions from automobiles and power plants and the rest.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

From day one, he's held true to that promise to, quote, shut down fossil fuel.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

essentially making the argument that policies to address climate change are more harmful than climate change itself.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

It's not climate change that farmers nor Americans should be worried about.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

It's the policies being pushed in the name of climate change that stand to do far much more damage.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Her partner in trying to repeal the endangerment finding was an attorney named Jonathan Brightbill.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

He had served in the Justice Department under the first Trump administration.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Everyone we have talked to has described him as a very sharp legal mind who really knows his way around the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

and has made the argument in court that Democratic administrations have really overreached in their efforts to impose regulations to address climate change.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

He was essentially dealing with the downstream effects of the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Because of the endangerment finding...

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

EPA has been dealing with a whiplash of regulations.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They have been created in Democratic administrations, erased in Republican administrations, and fought in courts the entire time.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Withdrawing the endangerment finding eliminates this situation entirely.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And that's what Gunasekara and Brightbill plotted to do.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And how do they actually go about doing that?