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Michael Barbaro

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The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

So in the summer of 2022, Gunasekara and Brightbill start seeking funding for a big new project.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They want to create a secret operation to kill the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They pitched conservative organizations.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They asked for about $2 million for the ability to work on scientific studies and research from scientists who disagree with the mainstream science.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They would start laying out the legal case for repealing the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

All of these things were things that could be used by a next Republican president, they hoped, Donald Trump, on day one.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They did eventually receive funding from a conservative organization, the Heritage Foundation.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

The Heritage Foundation would go on to lead Project 2025, the blueprint for the next Republican president.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And Mandy Gunasekara wrote the EPA chapter for Project 2025.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

So these two lawyers, Gunasekara and Brightbill, they are ensuring that this cause of rolling back environmental regulations, of going after the endangerment finding, that it gets taken up by a major conservative think tank in Heritage with a ton of influence in Republican politics.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Exactly right.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Then in tandem, we have two other lawyers, much more high-profile figures, who are working in their own right to bring down the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And who is that?

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Russ Vogt and Jeff Clark.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Much better known.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Much better known figures.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Russell Vogt, as we know, during the Biden years, starts a think tank of his own, the Center for Renewing America, where they were keeping the MAGA movement alive.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Mm-hmm.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Jeff Clark has been in the fight against the endangerment finding for decades.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Before there ever was an endangerment finding, he went to court to argue that the EPA...