Michael Barbaro

now makes it harder, perhaps even impossible, for the party, which is having all these trust issues and was in the middle of reexamining it very openly, to continue to have that candid or increasingly candid conversation about what happened here and what went wrong and how to make sure it never happens again within the Democratic Party.

You all heard David Axelrod, the well-known advisor to Barack Obama, say on television a couple of mornings ago that he thinks Biden's diagnosis means that that larger debate should be set aside for now. But should it and will it?

You all heard David Axelrod, the well-known advisor to Barack Obama, say on television a couple of mornings ago that he thinks Biden's diagnosis means that that larger debate should be set aside for now. But should it and will it?

Well, let's say that this debate doesn't get muted, doesn't get set aside. Reid, you're suggesting there's just not really a version where that happens. And it continues and maybe even intensifies. Where do you think it leads? And in what world does it lead to something really constructive?

Well, let's say that this debate doesn't get muted, doesn't get set aside. Reid, you're suggesting there's just not really a version where that happens. And it continues and maybe even intensifies. Where do you think it leads? And in what world does it lead to something really constructive?

The challenge, of course, is that right now everyone wants the debate that's still very much unfolding to be a debate about Biden. And on so many levels, that makes some sense. But clearly the entire party made a set of decisions that led to him being the nominee until almost the end.

The challenge, of course, is that right now everyone wants the debate that's still very much unfolding to be a debate about Biden. And on so many levels, that makes some sense. But clearly the entire party made a set of decisions that led to him being the nominee until almost the end.

And in some cases, those decisions were decisions to do nothing, even when polls showed very clearly that voters did not want Biden to run again. I believe, as you said, Lisa, earlier, a majority of Democrats didn't think he should do it. And so whether generational change comes or not, a question for the Democratic Party would seem to be, is it ready to listen to voters?

And in some cases, those decisions were decisions to do nothing, even when polls showed very clearly that voters did not want Biden to run again. I believe, as you said, Lisa, earlier, a majority of Democrats didn't think he should do it. And so whether generational change comes or not, a question for the Democratic Party would seem to be, is it ready to listen to voters?

Well, Lisa, Reid, Tyler, thank you very much. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us.

Well, Lisa, Reid, Tyler, thank you very much. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us.

Thanks so much, Michael.

Thanks so much, Michael.

On Monday, President Trump held a two-hour phone call with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in his latest attempt to bring the war in Ukraine to an end.

On Monday, President Trump held a two-hour phone call with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in his latest attempt to bring the war in Ukraine to an end.

But the call yielded no real breakthrough. Instead, Trump backed away from his previous demand that Russia agree to an immediate ceasefire and suggested that the United States may soon abandon the negotiations, which have made little progress since Trump's election.

But the call yielded no real breakthrough. Instead, Trump backed away from his previous demand that Russia agree to an immediate ceasefire and suggested that the United States may soon abandon the negotiations, which have made little progress since Trump's election.

And the Trump administration is criminally charging a sitting member of Congress, Democrat LaMonica McIver of New Jersey, for allegedly assaulting federal agents during a protest. The protest occurred earlier this month outside a New Jersey immigration detention center and featured a scuffle between lawmakers and police.

And the Trump administration is criminally charging a sitting member of Congress, Democrat LaMonica McIver of New Jersey, for allegedly assaulting federal agents during a protest. The protest occurred earlier this month outside a New Jersey immigration detention center and featured a scuffle between lawmakers and police.

But McIver insists she did nothing wrong and accused the White House of trying to criminalize what she called routine oversight by members of Congress. Today's episode was produced by Carlos Prieto and Olivia Nat. It was edited by Rachel Quester and Liz O'Balin. Contains original music by Marion Lozano, Pat McCusker, and Dan Powell. And was engineered by Chris Wood.