Michael Barbaro

I mean, that's a remarkably beautiful story. I wonder if spillover effects on siblings are always as constructive and positive as they were with the Chens. Yeah.

I'm not trying to be facetious, but this almost sounds biblical. If the eldest child is invested in properly and the spillover effect happens, that seems quite important. Yeah. and potentially achievable.

I'm not trying to be facetious, but this almost sounds biblical. If the eldest child is invested in properly and the spillover effect happens, that seems quite important. Yeah. and potentially achievable.

And does that mean that younger siblings can spill over to older siblings? Yes, that is what that means. Hmm. So now that we've talked through these two distinct factors, but seemingly related forces of the spillover effect and differentiation between siblings. I wonder what you have found in your reporting on how controllable any of this is.

And does that mean that younger siblings can spill over to older siblings? Yes, that is what that means. Hmm. So now that we've talked through these two distinct factors, but seemingly related forces of the spillover effect and differentiation between siblings. I wonder what you have found in your reporting on how controllable any of this is.

Parents like to think, and you hinted at this earlier, that they exert some level of influence over this kind of thing. Can they? Do they? Or is it ultimately out of their control?

Parents like to think, and you hinted at this earlier, that they exert some level of influence over this kind of thing. Can they? Do they? Or is it ultimately out of their control?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think we can end this conversation without asking you about your own siblings and your relationship to them, with them. Is it a story of spillover? Is it a story of differentiation? Is it a story of something else entirely?

I don't think we can end this conversation without asking you about your own siblings and your relationship to them, with them. Is it a story of spillover? Is it a story of differentiation? Is it a story of something else entirely?

I mean, let's just be explicit about how fateful.

I mean, let's just be explicit about how fateful.

Because?

Because?

Told you to do it.

Told you to do it.

And of course, there's something kind of poetic about this. If your oldest sibling hadn't pushed you to create that newspaper and become a journalist, you would never go on to write a book about siblings.

And of course, there's something kind of poetic about this. If your oldest sibling hadn't pushed you to create that newspaper and become a journalist, you would never go on to write a book about siblings.

And on that note, because I'm not talking about my family.