Michael Barbaro

I'm curious if you anticipated at any point that the promises that China made about Hong Kong's freedoms, I wonder when you started to sense that those promises were not going to be kept.

These are pro-democracy?

Wow.

As this is happening, are you out in the streets with your dad?

Are you participating in those 2014 protests?

But you were protesting?

Was he encouraging you to get involved in the protests?

No.

Of course, after the 2014 protests, which died down for some period of time, by 2019, they are in full blossom once again.

People are out in the streets.

And those protests end up centering around

this now infamous national security law that starts to take freedoms away in a pretty formal way.

And I have to imagine that in the back of your head in that period, you're starting to wonder what all this means for your father.

What was for you the first sign that Chinese authorities might be coming for your dad?

That that law seemed to have his name written all over it.

Did you ever try to persuade your dad to lay low, to...

perhaps stop what he was doing in this period?

Where were you when he was arrested?

I mean, they take him from his home where they've arrested him to his office to say something to the world.

I mean, is it safe to assume that you understood that if you had returned, you yourself might be arrested?