Michael Barbaro

And they can't do anything to stop it.

You had to fight...

if you'll forgive me, like hell to get to this point.

The president has basically politically disowned you.

He's backed somebody back in your district in Kentucky who may or may not end up running, but he's disendorsed you.

And he's trying to get you out of the House of Representatives.

How do you explain why the president would oppose

What you have described is essentially a transparency act, an act of justice for young victims of sexual abuse by Jeffrey Epstein.

Like, have you ever really settled in your mind why he opposes it?

He's been, until this week, tenacious in his opposition.

It makes you wonder if he's worried about himself.

But I've always maintained that he's

probably not criminally implicated in these files, that he is taking up for friends and donors of his and people who were in his social circle in the 90s, long before he was president, and people who may be giving him money now.

My friend broke on it.

You think he is covering

for some... Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

These are people that he knew.

He claims, and there's evidence to this, that he disavowed his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein at some point.

But he has colleagues and friends who did not and donors who did not.