Michael Barbaro

And he's been very successful at it.

Is that a worry you have?

I'm not worried about it.

I mean, there's already been $2 million spent in my primary, and it's not until May.

I've got the support of the people in my district.

But even if I lost, I'd rather lose and do the right thing up here than make the kind of trade-offs that you make when you're scared to stay elected.

Yeah.

And the vast majority of my colleagues have been making.

Well, Congressman, thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate your time.

All right.

All right.

If my colleagues will vote for this measure, we'll see justice triumph over politics.

Truth will triumph over deception and obfuscation.

So the voting in the House is now officially over.

The measure, what's being called around here the Epstein Transparency Act, has officially passed 427 to 1.

It was almost unanimous in the end.

A single House Republican voted against it.

And now that it has passed, we wanted to talk to one of the smartest minds on Washington here at The New York Times, Carl Hulse, to make sense of what this vote means well beyond Epstein and really even just this moment.