Michael Barbaro

Right.

Julie, I want to ask this to you because.

You wrote a whole book about immigration.

Lisa's suggesting that this election may serve as a rebuke broadly of Trump, perhaps not just his economic agenda, the whole package.

Do you think it's possible that among the parts of the package that voters rejected on Tuesday was something like the very big disruptive immigration crackdown?

I'm thinking back to the turnout of Hispanic voters in New Jersey, the number of

Hispanic voters who went for Trump just a year or so ago and went for Mikey Sherrill there.

Off-year elections.

Okay, so that is Tuesday's election.

The next blow to Trump in this pretty bad week for him came from what we mostly think of as a very reliable source of strength for the president, his conservative majority in the Supreme Court, which started to express these huge misgivings about the president's legal rationale for his tariffs.

Julie, to me, what was so interesting about how the conservative justices spoke about these tariffs was that they were so overtly offended, it felt,

By the way, Trump is taking power from Congress.

We heard Neil Gorsuch, who, by the way, is a Trump appointee, not to mention one of the most conservative justices on the court.

And we played this clip on yesterday's Daily.

But he basically said, if I sign off on this, it's a path toward congressional irrelevance.

And no one's really said that to the president before.

Tyler, the president, I have to imagine, is preparing for the very real possibility that the Supreme Court, his Supreme Court in a lot of ways, is about to strike down.

this centerpiece of his agenda, these tariffs.

And so I wonder what his plan is, and also if he's upset by it.

They may not give him that power even if he were to do what in the eyes of many Supreme Court justices is the right thing, which is to go to Congress and get the authority.