Michael Barbaro

We really tried to get inside the cartel by going to Sinaloa, visiting a fentanyl lab where they were cooking and producing the drug, talking to chemists. We talked to people who were tested on by the cartels as they were looking to perfect their formulas for these drugs.

It was risky, it was dangerous, but it was the only way that I knew to try to understand how this billion-dollar business worked. behind this incredibly lethal drug actually worked. And yeah, I was reminded of all of those hours in a car, going up to the mountains, sitting and just listening with my mom.

It was risky, it was dangerous, but it was the only way that I knew to try to understand how this billion-dollar business worked. behind this incredibly lethal drug actually worked. And yeah, I was reminded of all of those hours in a car, going up to the mountains, sitting and just listening with my mom.

I mean, I love The Daily. I remember when the show first started and it oriented me. As a reporter covering this world, I needed to listen to what was on The Daily because it helped me think about coverage. And then I got to be a guest on the show, as we said. I worked with some of the very same editors. Mm-hmm. and producers who are still running this show.

I mean, I love The Daily. I remember when the show first started and it oriented me. As a reporter covering this world, I needed to listen to what was on The Daily because it helped me think about coverage. And then I got to be a guest on the show, as we said. I worked with some of the very same editors. Mm-hmm. and producers who are still running this show.

So it feels like it's been a home away from home for me for a long time now. And so I'm excited to make it permanent. And you, Rachel?

So it feels like it's been a home away from home for me for a long time now. And so I'm excited to make it permanent. And you, Rachel?

Yes, we have so many questions. But the basic one, how do you think about this job, about hosting the show?

Yes, we have so many questions. But the basic one, how do you think about this job, about hosting the show?

Right, a million things going on.

Right, a million things going on.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Me too. Me three. I'm really excited.

Me too. Me three. I'm really excited.

No, can I? I'm going to do the honors. Please. Is that okay? Okay. Michael, Rachel, thank you so much. You're very welcome. You're welcome. Okay, Rachel, you want to?

No, can I? I'm going to do the honors. Please. Is that okay? Okay. Michael, Rachel, thank you so much. You're very welcome. You're welcome. Okay, Rachel, you want to?

Okay, so.

Okay, so.

Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, now my turn.