Michael Barbaro
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And all of this just continues to reinforce doubts in the president's mind about whether Pam Bondi is the right person to continue to serve in this job.
And on Monday, I got a tip that the president was on the verge of firing her.
So I spent the last several days reporting that out, eventually getting enough sources to feel confident that the president was discussing making that move.
And the biggest tell that this was imminent was on Wednesday when I reached out to the White House for formal comment.
Our story was going to publish to say the president...
had discussed firing Pam Bondi, and the comment they gave me was directly from President Trump, not Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, or someone else in the communications shop.
It was from the president directly, and this is what it said.
Quote, Attorney General Pam Bondi is a wonderful person, and she is doing a good job.
Hmm.
Translate that in Trumpology.
Trump is somebody who uses a lot of adjectives.
Saying his attorney general is doing a good job is the biggest tell that he is not satisfied with her job performance.
I mean, this really makes me wonder how you guys do your job, because even the word good doesn't really mean good in this administration.
Trump is an expressive politician, and it's rare to see a statement without all caps, exclamation points.
You can tell how Trump feels about something based on the language he's using.
And this was an obvious one for us.
Right.
In this case, good basically meant good.
I'm curious if your reporting, Tyler, suggests that there was any kind of a final straw here or just the logical culmination of all of the things that you have been laying out here.
Bondi's inability to put the president's enemies in jail, her blunders around Epstein, and ultimately her failure to be the kind of communicator, perhaps, that he needs in the role of attorney general.