Michael Barbaro

That's it for The Daily. I'm Michael Barbaro. See you on Monday.

Come on in. I'm going to sit in the middle. Okay, I'm taking the flank.

Come on in. I'm going to sit in the middle. Okay, I'm taking the flank.

Hello.

Hello.

Hi.

Hi.

I know.

I know.

Well, and you. It's the three of us. Yeah. The three of us, yep.

Well, and you. It's the three of us. Yeah. The three of us, yep.

I think that I got to give my mom credit on this one. She is a professor of Latin American politics. She was always, from when I was really young, doing research in Guatemala. And when I turned 12, she started taking me there. And her research was doing interviews with victims and survivors of the genocide in Guatemala. And I would go and do these interviews with her.

I think that I got to give my mom credit on this one. She is a professor of Latin American politics. She was always, from when I was really young, doing research in Guatemala. And when I turned 12, she started taking me there. And her research was doing interviews with victims and survivors of the genocide in Guatemala. And I would go and do these interviews with her.

I mean, she wasn't just talking with the survivors. She also talked to the guerrilla fighters who were part of the conflict. She talked to the ex-army commanders who were involved in some of these massacres. And so I was going in and out of these often tense conversations and just getting all sides of this very complicated story.

I mean, she wasn't just talking with the survivors. She also talked to the guerrilla fighters who were part of the conflict. She talked to the ex-army commanders who were involved in some of these massacres. And so I was going in and out of these often tense conversations and just getting all sides of this very complicated story.

And I took that with me right out of college when I was looking for a job. I realized you could get paid to do this. And it's basically what I've done ever since. And what about you, Rachel? I have to follow that? God, I'm sorry.

And I took that with me right out of college when I was looking for a job. I realized you could get paid to do this. And it's basically what I've done ever since. And what about you, Rachel? I have to follow that? God, I'm sorry.

I think really the most recent stories that I did are the clearest example of how those lessons I learned early on began to apply. Because I spent, as you know, because we talked about on the show, several months investigating the Sinaloa cartel as a way of understanding the fentanyl crisis that was killing, you know, tens of thousands of Americans.

I think really the most recent stories that I did are the clearest example of how those lessons I learned early on began to apply. Because I spent, as you know, because we talked about on the show, several months investigating the Sinaloa cartel as a way of understanding the fentanyl crisis that was killing, you know, tens of thousands of Americans.

We really tried to get inside the cartel by going to Sinaloa, visiting a fentanyl lab where they were cooking and producing the drug, talking to chemists. We talked to people who were tested on by the cartels as they were looking to perfect their formulas for these drugs.