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Michael Barbaro

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The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

And all of this just continues to reinforce doubts in the president's mind about whether Pam Bondi is the right person to continue to serve in this job.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

And on Monday, I got a tip that the president was on the verge of firing her.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

So I spent the last several days reporting that out, eventually getting enough sources to feel confident that the president was discussing making that move.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

And the biggest tell that this was imminent was on Wednesday when I reached out to the White House for formal comment.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Our story was going to publish to say the president...

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

had discussed firing Pam Bondi, and the comment they gave me was directly from President Trump, not Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, or someone else in the communications shop.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

It was from the president directly, and this is what it said.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Quote, Attorney General Pam Bondi is a wonderful person, and she is doing a good job.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Hmm.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Translate that in Trumpology.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Trump is somebody who uses a lot of adjectives.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Saying his attorney general is doing a good job is the biggest tell that he is not satisfied with her job performance.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

I mean, this really makes me wonder how you guys do your job, because even the word good doesn't really mean good in this administration.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Trump is an expressive politician, and it's rare to see a statement without all caps, exclamation points.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

You can tell how Trump feels about something based on the language he's using.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

And this was an obvious one for us.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Right.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

In this case, good basically meant good.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

I'm curious if your reporting, Tyler, suggests that there was any kind of a final straw here or just the logical culmination of all of the things that you have been laying out here.

The Daily
Epstein Blunders and Tossed Indictments: The Downfall of Pam Bondi

Bondi's inability to put the president's enemies in jail, her blunders around Epstein, and ultimately her failure to be the kind of communicator, perhaps, that he needs in the role of attorney general.