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Michael Crowley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
84 total appearances

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The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And, you know, honestly, it's not clear to me that they have it entirely figured out because there's just not a simple way to do this.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

You know, it's very clear that Rubio in particular

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

wants to see this regime brought down and consigned to the dustbin of history.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But at the same time, I think Rubio recognizes that this is not something you can do overnight for a bunch of reasons.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And one of them is that it comes with real risks.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

I've been talking in my reporting to a lot of people who track Cuba extremely closely.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And what they warn is that this is a monolithic, brittle,

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

political system, there's no political opposition because the government there has been repressive for so long.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

It's going to be really hard to find some kind of a opposition leader who could take over or even to do some kind of a short-term transition to a different government.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And if you bring down the entire government without something to replace it,

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

You risk total chaos, violence, mass migration from Cuba toward Florida, a lot of conditions that would put the Trump administration in a very uncomfortable position of having to make choices about what they do next.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

So the question is, is there a way that you can kind of engineer a soft landing?

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Well, it could be.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But the experts that I talk to say, in the words of one of them, it's a fool's errand to try to find Adelce Rodriguez in Cuba.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Hmm.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Why?

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Because of the nature of their political system, number one, it's very unlikely that you would have somebody who was willing to kind of

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

step out of the political culture and allow themselves to be seen as a sort of American puppet.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

At least in Venezuela, you have a substantial part of the population that has some sympathy for the United States.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But there's just going to be very little of that in Cuba.