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Michael Crowley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
84 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

The other problem is that it's a question of what you would want from the Cubans.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And Rubio gave an interview over the weekend that gave us some clues as to what they might be thinking.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And he said that it's really important that Cuba's government agree to some significant changes to its state-run socialist economy.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

He really emphasized the economy over the political system.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But he has made clear many times over the years that other deals the U.S.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

has struck with the Cuban government, which in his view have led to

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

very incremental reforms were almost worse than nothing.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

You know, Rubio's reaction is that that's the Cuban government being dishonest, playing for time, making promises it has no intention of keeping and eventually reneging on.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

That's absolutely right.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

So that leaves you with a situation where it looks like the Cuban government would have to essentially agree to its own demise.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

to get Trump off its back.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

And that seems very unlikely.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

I mean, it's basically suicidal.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Again, I'm talking to many people who have followed the Cuban leadership over the years, and they say that they just can't imagine that happening.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

Now, at the same time, if this economy and society is totally collapsing around them, and who knows, maybe at some point you start having popular protests, that could convince them to make a deal like that.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But that's a very extreme situation.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

It's a great question.

The Daily
After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

I think that most of the time, very few Americans are thinking about Cuba and don't really care that much about it.

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

But having said that, I still think there's little doubt that if President Trump were to bring down the communist government of Cuba implanted by Fidel Castro almost 70 years ago,

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After Venezuela, Is Cuba Next?

and he was able to do it without destroying Cuba along the way, I really think that that would be widely regarded around the world as kind of a historic triumph.