Michael Easter

But I...

I joke, but I think that there's something to that.

There's an unreality to the world in both politics and Hollywood.

And the world's less real in Hollywood than it is in politics.

In what sense?

there are actual consequences to decisions in politics, right?

Like actual consequences to real human beings.

And that's not the case in Hollywood, right?

Like there's consequences to the people on your show or your movie, but it's not, you know, the decisions that one makes in Hollywood don't affect the lives of millions of people.

I want to be clear.

I love writing, right?

I'm not complaining about that part.

It's an amazing job to get to have, but...

I think that I was, without knowing it, I think I was longing for something more real, more concrete, more tactile.

And there was a few incidents that happened that we can get into that led me to want to go do a Boulder Outdoor Survival School course.

But I think what was going on under the surface was this feeling of a lack of connection to the real world.

And I wanted to fix that.

Yeah, for those who are not familiar with BOSS, give us the breakdown of what it is.

It's so awesome.

I mean, it is so awesome.