Michael Jones

But of course, being the Black Prince, he's also had himself set out.

And this was made very clear in his will, in his prime.

So what you see is a prince of about 13 years.

having just married the extremely attractive Joan of Kent and at the summit of his power.

So we have up to a point justifiably an idealized version, and that idealized version puts him above all the stuff that went wrong.

And we can always look up to him and say, well, that was a bit special.

And I would argue, and I have argued in my book, that there was enough truth in that

to pull him out of his time and make him an exemplar of something in our history that we can be rightly proud of.

So the book's called The Black Prince.

A big pleasure to write it.

Yeah.

Thank you very much, Dan.

It's been great spending time with you.

Who put these people in power?

Totally agree.

Totally agree.

Because you said you want Christians and Muslims to work together.

Because you said you want Christians and Muslims to work together.

The problem is, is when we go into the data, it is not the Christian's fault.

The problem is, is when we go into the data, it is not the Christian's fault.