Michael Kosta

And you have to have lightweight equipment.

And we're very fortunate to live in this

where you have Kevlar cable, and you have Teflon, and you have all of these things that allow us to do these.

So it has to be lightweight, portable, but you still, in total, weigh six tons.

Yeah.

And you've got to get it up there and assemble it.

So, yeah, a great team effort.

I mean, you were, yeah, this is you carrying tools up there.

At one point, you were, oh, we'll take a helicopter.

The helicopter pilot's like, f*** you, I'm not doing that.

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That's exactly what happened.

I'm serious.

And one of the things I loved about this story was you kept being faced with more no's, with more you can't do that, the helicopter won't take you, and you just kept figuring out a way to do it.

Not only that, you had a heart transplant.

I mean, you still hold the record for the highest elevation that a person's been at with a heart transplant at 20,000 feet, 22,000 feet.

22,000 feet.

I mean, you went... Yeah, meanwhile, this doctor's like, hey, can you not, you know... Meanwhile, you went on six more expeditions with this heart.

Nine now.

Nine now.