Michael Levin

And that's exactly what he gave me was constrictive criticism.

I was like, that's awesome.

That's a great typo.

I mean, I must say that, you know, I sometimes think about these ingressions from this space as a kind of steganography, you know?

So steganography is when you hide data and messages within the bits of another pattern that don't matter, right?

And the rule of steganography is you can't mess up the main thing, you know?

It's a picture of a cat or whatever.

You got to keep the cat.

But if there's bits that don't matter, you can kind of stick stuff.

So I feel like I feel like all these ingressions are a kind of universal steganography that there's this like these patterns seep into everything everywhere they can.

And they're kind of they're kind of shy, meaning that they're very subtle, not invisible.

If you work hard, you can catch them.

But but they're not invisible.

But but but they're hard to see.

And the fact that the fact that I think they also affect quote unquote machines as much as they certainly affect living, living organisms, I think is incredibly, incredibly beautiful.

And I personally am happy to be part of that same spectrum.

And the fact that that, that magic is sort of.

uh, applicable to everything.

I, I, a lot of people find that extremely disturbing and that's, that's some of the, some of the hate mail I get is like, yeah, we were with you, you know, on the majesty of life thing until you got to the fact that machines get it too.

And now, now like, like terrible, right.