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Michael Levin

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

So, um,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

It's no one has, to my knowledge, no one has come up with any convincing discrete step at which my cognitive powers disappear, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

It just doesn't, the biology doesn't offer any specific step.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

It's incredibly smooth and slow and continuous.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

And so I think this idea that it just sort of magically shows up at one point and then, you know, humans have true selves that don't exist elsewhere.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

I think it runs against everything we know about evolution, everything we know about developmental biology.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

These are all slow continua.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

And the other really important story I want to tell is where embryos come from.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

So think about this for a second.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

Amniote embryos, so this is humans, birds, and so on, mammals and birds and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

Imagine a flat disk of cells.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

So there's maybe 50,000 cells.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

And in that, so when you get an egg from a fertilized, let's say you buy a fertilized egg from a farm, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

That egg will have about 50,000 cells in a flat disk.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

It looks like a little tiny little Frisbee.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

And in that flat disk, what will happen is there'll be one set of cells will become special, and it will tell all the other cells, I'm going to be the head.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

You guys don't be the head.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

And so it'll amplify symmetry breaking amplification.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

You get one embryo.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#325 โ€“ Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots

There's some neural tissue and some other stuff forms.