Michael Levin

I think that's kind of like, you know, and I'll tell you why.

I think it's like heresy or like other terms that aren't really a thing.

Because if you unpack it, here's what anthropomorphism means.

Humans have a certain magic, and you're making a category error by attributing that magic somewhere else.

My point is, we have the same magic that everything has.

We have a couple of interesting things besides the cognitive icon and some other stuff.

And it isn't that you have to keep the humans separate because there's some bright line.

It's just, it's that same old...

All I'm arguing for is the scientific method, really.

That's really all this is.

All I'm saying is you can't just make pronouncements such as humans are this and let's not sort of push that.

You have to do experiments.

After you've done your experiments, you can say either I've done it and I found...

Look at that.

That thing actually can predict the future for the next 12 minutes.

Amazing.

Or you say, you know what?

I've tried all the things in the behaviorist handbook.

They just don't help me with this.

It's a very low level of like that's it.