Michael Levin

Like I just, it just, well, what I've, what I learned from any of these scientific facts is okay, well, I guess then that's that, that, then I guess that's what,

is sufficient to give me my amazing first-person perspective.

Maybe, maybe.

I don't know.

That would be nice.

On the one hand, you might be right, because on the one hand, if I don't know what else could possibly give you that guidance.

Right.

So so you would think that it would have to be that or you would it would have to be science because there isn't anything else.

So so that's so maybe on the other hand.

I am really not sure how you go from any, you know, what they call from an is to an ought, right?

From any factual description of what's going on.

This goes back to the natural, right?

Just because somebody says, oh man, that's completely not natural.

That's never happened on earth before.

I'm not impressed by that whatsoever.

I think whatever has or hasn't happened, we are now in a position to do better if we can, right?

Yeah, I 100 percent agree.

So when I say science and nothing else, I certainly don't mean the science of today, because I think overall, I think we are we know very little.

I think most of the things that we're sure of now are going to be, as you said, are going to look hilarious down the line.

So I think we're just at the beginning of a lot of really important things.