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Michael Levin

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

pattern memories, specifically what I was saying before, goals, anatomical goals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

If you want to persist for 100 plus years, your cells better remember what your correct shape is and where the new cells go, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So there are these pattern memories that exist during embryogenesis, during regeneration, during resistance to aging.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

We can see them, we can visualize them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

One thing you can imagine is, fine, the physical body, the cells are the agent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

The electrical pattern memories are just data.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And what might happen during aging is that the data might get degraded.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

They might get fuzzy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And so what we need to do is reinforce the data, reinforce the memories, reinforce the pattern memories.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

That's one specific research program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And we're doing that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

But that's not the only research program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Because the other thing you might imagine is that what if

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

the patterns are the agent in exactly the same sense as we think in our brains.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

It's the patterns of electrophysiological, you know, computations and whatever else that is the agent, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And that what they're doing in the brain are the side effects of the patterns working themselves out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And those side effects might be to fire off some muscles and some glands and some other things.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

From that perspective,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

maybe what's actually happening is maybe the agent's finding it harder and harder to be embodied in the physical world.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Why?