Michael Levitt

are really easy to do but unfortunately they're also easy not to do and we as humans tend to lean more towards the comfort way of living instead of doing a little bit of challenging work on ourselves and that's that's one of the things that is so hard is when we need to work on us

are really easy to do but unfortunately they're also easy not to do and we as humans tend to lean more towards the comfort way of living instead of doing a little bit of challenging work on ourselves and that's that's one of the things that is so hard is when we need to work on us

For some reason, that's really difficult for some people to do, which is strange in a way, if you think about it, because we're never around anybody else longer than we are with ourselves. So it's an interesting dynamic to see people struggle with trying to do things to make themselves feel better, look better, and be better.

For some reason, that's really difficult for some people to do, which is strange in a way, if you think about it, because we're never around anybody else longer than we are with ourselves. So it's an interesting dynamic to see people struggle with trying to do things to make themselves feel better, look better, and be better.

Yeah, you hit it right on the head when it comes to C-suite executives and C-suite leaders having a difficult time because of the stigma of burnout. There's a mental health component to it. Actually, a lot of people do in talks and things like that. They'll ask burnout, especially with the science and all that. It sounds a lot like depression. There are a ton of similarities between the two.

Yeah, you hit it right on the head when it comes to C-suite executives and C-suite leaders having a difficult time because of the stigma of burnout. There's a mental health component to it. Actually, a lot of people do in talks and things like that. They'll ask burnout, especially with the science and all that. It sounds a lot like depression. There are a ton of similarities between the two.

As someone who has dealt with both, I've dealt with clinical depression myself, as well as burnout. I'll tell you, yeah, there are a lot of similarities, but the key difference is with burnout, you can still muster up the energy to go out and do it. You're fatigued, you're cloudy, you're wiped out, but you're still out there just grinding and just doing it.

As someone who has dealt with both, I've dealt with clinical depression myself, as well as burnout. I'll tell you, yeah, there are a lot of similarities, but the key difference is with burnout, you can still muster up the energy to go out and do it. You're fatigued, you're cloudy, you're wiped out, but you're still out there just grinding and just doing it.

You're tired, you want to go to sleep, your body aches, everything, but you're still doing it. When you're clinically depressed, even doing that is a big ask, and sometimes you can't. There are just days where you just like, I can't get out of bed, or I just want to go take a nap. And there's nothing intrinsically wrong with taking a nap. I'm a big fan of them.

You're tired, you want to go to sleep, your body aches, everything, but you're still doing it. When you're clinically depressed, even doing that is a big ask, and sometimes you can't. There are just days where you just like, I can't get out of bed, or I just want to go take a nap. And there's nothing intrinsically wrong with taking a nap. I'm a big fan of them.

But when you don't want to do anything, even things you enjoy doing, that's a big warning sign. But to get back to your original question, because of the stigma of it, and also it's a delicate balance.

But when you don't want to do anything, even things you enjoy doing, that's a big warning sign. But to get back to your original question, because of the stigma of it, and also it's a delicate balance.

It is one of the reasons why I don't list all the companies that I've worked with on my website because usually consulting or organizations, we've worked with these companies and they list a bunch of them and all of that. And there's some companies that I've dealt with in the past that are publicly traded. Their C-suite is the team that I worked with.

It is one of the reasons why I don't list all the companies that I've worked with on my website because usually consulting or organizations, we've worked with these companies and they list a bunch of them and all of that. And there's some companies that I've dealt with in the past that are publicly traded. Their C-suite is the team that I worked with.

Could have been an individual, could have been with a couple of them. The problem is because of the stigma, if it got out that the CEO of

Could have been an individual, could have been with a couple of them. The problem is because of the stigma, if it got out that the CEO of

this publicly traded company is dealing with depression or burnout what's going to happen to their stock in all likelihood at least in the short term it's probably going to go down it may go down a lot which means shareholders and the business could lose millions billions trillions who knows so this goes back to my healthcare training where privacy is critically important so i don't tell even my spouse

this publicly traded company is dealing with depression or burnout what's going to happen to their stock in all likelihood at least in the short term it's probably going to go down it may go down a lot which means shareholders and the business could lose millions billions trillions who knows so this goes back to my healthcare training where privacy is critically important so i don't tell even my spouse

who I'm working with. I just don't. I might say a company if I can, or I'll say I'm working with this industry. I don't say who I work with because I strongly believe in privacy. Even though I'm quite public, I just said a few minutes ago, yeah, I've been clinically depressed and I've burned out and all that stuff. I lost my job, lost this and all that. I publicly declared, but that's my choice.

who I'm working with. I just don't. I might say a company if I can, or I'll say I'm working with this industry. I don't say who I work with because I strongly believe in privacy. Even though I'm quite public, I just said a few minutes ago, yeah, I've been clinically depressed and I've burned out and all that stuff. I lost my job, lost this and all that. I publicly declared, but that's my choice.