Michael Levitt

As someone who has dealt with both, I've dealt with clinical depression myself, as well as burnout. I'll tell you, yeah, there are a lot of similarities, but the key difference is with burnout, you can still muster up the energy to go out and do it. You're fatigued, you're cloudy, you're wiped out, but you're still out there just grinding and just doing it.

As someone who has dealt with both, I've dealt with clinical depression myself, as well as burnout. I'll tell you, yeah, there are a lot of similarities, but the key difference is with burnout, you can still muster up the energy to go out and do it. You're fatigued, you're cloudy, you're wiped out, but you're still out there just grinding and just doing it.

You're tired, you want to go to sleep, your body aches, everything, but you're still doing it. When you're clinically depressed, even doing that is a big ask, and sometimes you can't. There are just days where you just like, I can't get out of bed, or I just want to go take a nap. And there's nothing intrinsically wrong with taking a nap. I'm a big fan of them.

You're tired, you want to go to sleep, your body aches, everything, but you're still doing it. When you're clinically depressed, even doing that is a big ask, and sometimes you can't. There are just days where you just like, I can't get out of bed, or I just want to go take a nap. And there's nothing intrinsically wrong with taking a nap. I'm a big fan of them.

But when you don't want to do anything, even things you enjoy doing, that's a big warning sign. But to get back to your original question, because of the stigma of it, and also it's a delicate balance.

But when you don't want to do anything, even things you enjoy doing, that's a big warning sign. But to get back to your original question, because of the stigma of it, and also it's a delicate balance.

It is one of the reasons why I don't list all the companies that I've worked with on my website because usually consulting or organizations, we've worked with these companies and they list a bunch of them and all of that. And there's some companies that I've dealt with in the past that are publicly traded. Their C-suite is the team that I worked with.

It is one of the reasons why I don't list all the companies that I've worked with on my website because usually consulting or organizations, we've worked with these companies and they list a bunch of them and all of that. And there's some companies that I've dealt with in the past that are publicly traded. Their C-suite is the team that I worked with.

Could have been an individual, could have been with a couple of them. The problem is because of the stigma, if it got out that the CEO of

Could have been an individual, could have been with a couple of them. The problem is because of the stigma, if it got out that the CEO of

this publicly traded company is dealing with depression or burnout what's going to happen to their stock in all likelihood at least in the short term it's probably going to go down it may go down a lot which means shareholders and the business could lose millions billions trillions who knows so this goes back to my healthcare training where privacy is critically important so i don't tell even my spouse

this publicly traded company is dealing with depression or burnout what's going to happen to their stock in all likelihood at least in the short term it's probably going to go down it may go down a lot which means shareholders and the business could lose millions billions trillions who knows so this goes back to my healthcare training where privacy is critically important so i don't tell even my spouse

who I'm working with. I just don't. I might say a company if I can, or I'll say I'm working with this industry. I don't say who I work with because I strongly believe in privacy. Even though I'm quite public, I just said a few minutes ago, yeah, I've been clinically depressed and I've burned out and all that stuff. I lost my job, lost this and all that. I publicly declared, but that's my choice.

who I'm working with. I just don't. I might say a company if I can, or I'll say I'm working with this industry. I don't say who I work with because I strongly believe in privacy. Even though I'm quite public, I just said a few minutes ago, yeah, I've been clinically depressed and I've burned out and all that stuff. I lost my job, lost this and all that. I publicly declared, but that's my choice.

I can do that. And my company's not publicly traded. If somebody wants to take it public, okay, they can talk with me. We'll have that conversation. But I I think ultimately getting past that stigma for executives is the first thing. And in understanding that and acknowledging that, because if they're worried about this getting out, it's not going to get out for me.

I can do that. And my company's not publicly traded. If somebody wants to take it public, okay, they can talk with me. We'll have that conversation. But I I think ultimately getting past that stigma for executives is the first thing. And in understanding that and acknowledging that, because if they're worried about this getting out, it's not going to get out for me.

And secondly, it's literally earning their trust. They got to trust me. Our purpose is to get them past burnout, to get them back to their best version of themselves. And one of the biggest reasons why I hate burnout so much is it robs society of great products and services.

And secondly, it's literally earning their trust. They got to trust me. Our purpose is to get them past burnout, to get them back to their best version of themselves. And one of the biggest reasons why I hate burnout so much is it robs society of great products and services.

a lot of people say what do you mean by that if people are burned out they're not their best which means they're not making their best stuff they're not doing the best work they're not creating so there's products and services that might exist today that would make our lives easier that unfortunately won't exist because the creators or the people who are thinking about it are burned out and they don't have the energy to carry it forward so we lose as a society when people are burned out

a lot of people say what do you mean by that if people are burned out they're not their best which means they're not making their best stuff they're not doing the best work they're not creating so there's products and services that might exist today that would make our lives easier that unfortunately won't exist because the creators or the people who are thinking about it are burned out and they don't have the energy to carry it forward so we lose as a society when people are burned out