Michael Lewis

Twelve.

Podcasting is like your second or third thing that you do, right?

And you make more episodes, I think, per year than we do.

We used to make 26 episodes a year.

We were starting to do it, and then we covered the NFL, and we were like, aha.

This is what we're doing.

Understand why things worked.

I mean, all these people, they're maniacs.

You don't build something like this if you're not a maniac.

We used to say this all the time.

We'd be like, too hard pile, too hard pile.

Warren and Charlie had this thing.

There was the...

The yes pile, the no pile, and then the too hard pile.

Yeah, it was just all... There might be something in here, but I'm just too hard.

One of the reasons, besides just wanting to meet you, because you've been an inspiration to us forever, that I wanted to meet you a few months ago was Hollywood.

We've had lots of opportunities to work with Hollywood.

It keeps being too hard.

To this point, they have thus always invariably ended up in the too hard pile.

Are you talking about doing episodes in Hollywood?